This is what I know/remember:

Phil has Atari source on old (OOOOOOLD) floppies in his garage... if
you want to go there and back them up/convert them by yourself, I'm
sure Phil doesn't mind... ;) (IF they still work!)

Ken is rumored (by himself, strangely enough) to have the 80% complete
Amiga source for The Dungeon somewhere... but it prolly won't surface
anywhere (atleast officially) due to copyright problems (ie. Datasoft
vs. Paradise Programming issues)...

As for remakes... just name the remake "Alternative Reality" and be
true to the original, and I'm sure nobody will mind that either.

/Robert

>I know there has been one PC port of the city done, but if memory
serves it
>wasn't very good.. I'm new to the list so don't know if this has come
up
>before, but seeing as the original series of 7 never was finished, I
would
>*love* to see this happen... more so even than to see ARO, although
I'd love
>to see that too!
>
>At any rate, I'm throwing this out.. I don't know if Phil still has
the
>source code, or as someone else mentioned, would even consider giving
it out
>if he did, but what I've been thinking of is taking the original code,
if
>possible, porting both the city and dungeion over to the PC with some
minor
>functionality changes (make the city and dungeon share a common engine
w/
>spells and the like, instead of two completely different games) and
then
>going ahead with the rest of the series as it was originally intended,
but
>at the same time keeping the originals as up-to-date technologically
as
>possible. I suggest that so that we don't have a 2001 version of the
City,
>and then a 2010 version of the Wilderness which puts the City to
shame...
>
>I know doing this would require at the very least Phil's approval, and
don't
>know the legalities involved such as defunct companies owning the
copyright
>or the like.. but it just eats me up inside knowing a game that is as
great
>as the original AR series is without even being halfway complete is..
well,
>left at being not even halfway complete.
>
>Any comments on getting this going would be greatly appreciated
(especially
>from Phil, *can* we do it?)
>
>Thanks all!
>
>