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Subject: The Matrix (SPOILERS)
Author: Dan Pinal <danp--massmedia.com>
Date: 16-May-2003 20:16:40

Ever seen The 13th Floor? It came out around the same time as the original
Matrix but got totally pushed to the side after the Matrix came out. I've
actually thought about making a game with a similar system, all characters
in the game live their own lives without your presence until you come in
and "Agent Smith" them.

At 06:03 PM 5/16/2003 -0600, Kyle West wrote:

>I also heard a theory that the world that they think is the 'real' world
>was actually a Matrix inside a Matrix... I hope they don't go that
>direction though because then you would *never* know when you were in the
>real world.. it could be a Matrix inside a Matrix inside a Matrix
>inside......you get the point. ;-)
>
>I have two other theories.. one is kind of what you guys talk about below,
>that they never actually leave the Matrix.. maybe they just think they do,
>but still aren't.. although I think this is possible for the plot, I don't
>think it's likely.. Neo never went into a coma before when exercising his
>One-like powers...
>
>My other theory that I think is more likely.. is that when Neo met the
>architect, he was somehow given real world god-like powers, but that using
>them to stop the Sentinels turns out to be a bit too tough on him physically.
>
>
>>From: Xavier <Xavier--rocketmail.com>
>>Reply-To: AlternateReality-From-barrick75-hotmail.com--alternaterealityarchive.com
>>>>Subject: RE: [AR] The Matrix
>>Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:43:24 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Very well said!
>>I thought that perhaps they were still in the Matrix
>>in the end, however, that had that one guy that Smith
>>'posessed' and left the Matrix, so who knows?
>>
>>We shall find out soon enough!
>>
>>--- ar--marktaw.mailshell.com wrote:
>> > SPOILERS
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>> > I noticed that the Wachowski brothers slipped from
>> > Eastern to Western philosphy and brought the Matrix
>> > from 0 century Messianicism into some sort of
>> > post-Decartes existentialism. "What is the nature of
>> > choice?" and so on.
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>> > I think the first half was a sort of "Episode II"
>> > where they felt they had to set up the second half
>> > by establishing what everyone had to lose. It sort
>> > of dragged aimlessly. Also, the audience is smarter
>> > than the main characters, so in addition to being
>> > clued in to things they don't know... actually, I
>> > don't think there's much we know that they don't
>> > know, so it's frustrating when they float around
>> > from plot point to plot point.
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>> > The second half felt very rushed, and I expect there
>> > will be a director's cut that fixes the flow and
>> > explains a bit more. I think they shot a lot more
>> > footage than made it into the movie and had to cut
>> > quite a bit for time.
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>> > The speech that the Architect gave was very "deep"
>> > but it happened all at once. You didn't have a
>> > chance to absorb it and you're still trying to
>> > remember what while he's speaking.
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>> > A lot of the trailers "Give us Neo" and such seem to
>> > be from the 3rd movie.
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>> > I think the Wachowski brothers planned some of the
>> > humorous moments, but we weren't expecting a movie
>> > with humor.
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>> > The Smith fight scene... did you notice that there
>> > were practically no cuts? I did notice some of the
>> > Smiths were stunt doubles.
>> >
>> > Ultimately, I think it's very re-watchable, but not
>> > as much of a package as the first movie. I expect I
>> > won't get some of the symbolism until I've had a
>> > chance to re-watch it a few times, but a lot of it
>> > was repeated from the first movie (a lot of Room
>> > 101's). It's more straightfoward than the first
>> > movie. The first time I saw The Matrix I didn't
>> > really get the plot. I had to re-watch it once or
>> > twice before all the pieces came together... This
>> > one came together very quickly. Some things were too
>> > blatent, and I think some of the plot contrivances
>> > too obvious.
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>> > And finally... Are they still in the Matrix at the
>> > end? Why can NEO sence the sentinals?
>> >
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