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Subject: AR: Matrix, more spoilers
Author: ar--marktaw.mailshell.com <ar--marktaw.mailshell.com>
Date: 18-May-2003 20:17:23

Kyle,

I was well aware of the possibility that your SO could be your boyfriend... I did say SO in the essay, and I was vaguely aware that I was making a distinction you weren't in my previous post.

Reloaded... I always figured it was a reference to the fact that it was the second in the series... Never gave it much thought beyond that. It certainly makes sense that it could also mean rebooted in terms of the storyline.

I noticed the bowling pin sound. Funny, but funny is out of character for the Matrix, IMHO. I did notice that the EMP made visual waves in the first movie... something that it wouldn't do in real life.

The french guy survived the other Neo's... This is why I need to re-watch the movie, picking up on details like this. When it comes out in iMax... mwa ha ha. Anyway didn't the Architect say that Neo would have to choose several people to rebuild the Matrix with? Oh wait a minute... The French guy is a program. He survived the same way the Architect and the Oracle survived. I guess he didn't want to give up his position in The Matrix this time, or something along those lines.

I also thought that about the Oracle... She's the one who introduced the flaw. Is she in hiding? I seem to remember her implying that she was.

Regards,
Mark

From Kyle West <barrick75--hotmail.com> on 18 May 2003:

> lol.. that's great and all.. thanks for giving me credit.. but with all
> due
> respect, I never used the word girlfriend..I actually used "significant
> other" but to be more specific, it's actually my boyfriend.. ;-)
>
> I read through it.. nice review. I also saw the movie again yesterday
> so
> have some more thoughts...
>
> <rant>
>
> I can shed a bit of light on how Neo knew to meet the Oracle.. the ship
> that
> Morpheus asked to stay at broadcast level got a communique (sp?) from
> the
> Oracle, which was delivered to Neo.. that's how Neo knew he had to meet
> with
> her. Although I found it odd that Seraph was NOT there to defend the
> Oracle
> in the first Matrix.
>
> Something else I was considering was that Neo was a program acting out
> "The
> One" like all the others who just do what they are made to do.. but I
> don't
> think this is the case since the 3 agents who he fights at the beginning
> say
> "The anomaly.. he is still.. only human..." So I think Neo for sure is
> human.. although I wonder if it's the same human who has been "The One"
> the
> previous 5 times.
>
> One other outlook I've given after the second viewing.. is that in the
> original Matrix, Smith says that the Matrix used to be perfect.. but
> that it
> didn't work.. so they had to make it imperfect. What I *think* the
> architect said in Reloaded is that 1% of the people didn't accept the
> imperfect Matrix (better than the 100% of the perfect Matrix).. and that
>
> "The One" including the prophecy was created by the Oracle (who it turns
> out
> is actually a 'bad guy') to bleed off that unsusceptible 1%, freeing
> them
> into Zion.. and then sending the sentinals into Zion to whipe it out.
>
> There are a couple flaws with this theory though.. one is the obvious..
> that
> this does not explain Neo's new powers at the end.. The other is that
> the
> french asswhipe ;-) says he survived Neo's predecessors, which implies
> to me
> that if a predecessor had killed him, he wouldn't still be here.. if
> that is
> the case, has the keymaker been killed 5 times before also?
>
> On a funner note.. did anyone else notice that in the first Neo vs.
> many-smiths battle, near the end of the fight, the smiths getting
> knocked
> down makes the sound of a bunch of bowling pins getting knocked
> down....?
> ;-)
>
> And lastly.. (whew!) another suggestion from the not-girlfriend..
> perhaps
> the title of the movie is a clue.. "Reloaded"... he suggested it might
> be in
> the sense "rebooted" whereas I considered it reloading a gun... The
> Matrix
> Rebooted sounds pretty dumb ;-)
>
> </rant>
>
>
> >From: <ar--marktaw.mailshell.com>
> >Reply-To: AlternateReality-From-barrick75-hotmail.com--alternaterealityarchive.com
> >> >Subject: Re: The 13th Floor
> >Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:10:25 -0700
> >
> >Unfortunately, I don't have cable. DSL yes, cable no.
> >
> >I just posted an essay about The Matrix on my personal site
> >http://www.marktaw.com/reviews/TheMatrixReloaded.html
> if you're interested.
> >I quoted Kyle's girlfriend. =)
> >
> >Regards,
> >Mark
> >
> >From David Litchman <Davel23--rcn.com> on 18 May 2003:
> >
> > > In case anyone REALLY wants to see this movie (and gets this message
> in
> > > time) the Sci-Fi channel is showing it today starting at 5:00 EST.
> >
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