I've always had trouble with stories where you couldn't trust people you formerly trusted... Sometimes it works as a betrayal, but otherwise the story loses it's center... Who do you trust? It becomes arbitrary and the main character's point of view loses it's focus.

If anything anyone tells you can be a lie, then why bother doing anything to help anyone?

It's possible she was clueing him in to certain things... by giving him a red candy, by leaving just before an Agent attacked. He asked whether or not he could trust her and she basically said "you have to make that decision." Is there any point where he does? He just sort of goes along with what she told him to do because that was the only lead he had.

I think The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman pulled this off much better. She had to fulfil her destiny without knowing that she was fulfilling her destiny.

Regards,
Mark

From Dan Burget <byock_--hotmail.com> on 18 May 2003:

> I don't think she was in hiding, I just think she wanted Neo to think
> she
> was, making it seem she was against the machine.
>
> Dan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ar--marktaw.mailshell.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: AR: Matrix, more spoilers
>
>
> > Kyle,
> >
> > I was well aware of the possibility that your SO could be your
> boyfriend... I did say SO in the essay, and I was vaguely aware that I
> was
> making a distinction you weren't in my previous post.
> >
> > Reloaded... I always figured it was a reference to the fact that it
> was
> the second in the series... Never gave it much thought beyond that. It
> certainly makes sense that it could also mean rebooted in terms of the
> storyline.
> >
> > I noticed the bowling pin sound. Funny, but funny is out of character
> for
> the Matrix, IMHO. I did notice that the EMP made visual waves in the
> first
> movie... something that it wouldn't do in real life.
> >
> > The french guy survived the other Neo's... This is why I need to
> re-watch
> the movie, picking up on details like this. When it comes out in iMax...
> mwa
> ha ha. Anyway didn't the Architect say that Neo would have to choose
> several
> people to rebuild the Matrix with? Oh wait a minute... The French guy is
> a
> program. He survived the same way the Architect and the Oracle survived.
> I
> guess he didn't want to give up his position in The Matrix this time, or
> something along those lines.
> >
> > I also thought that about the Oracle... She's the one who introduced
> the
> flaw. Is she in hiding? I seem to remember her implying that she was.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mark
> >
> > From Kyle West <barrick75--hotmail.com> on 18 May 2003:
> >
> > > lol.. that's great and all.. thanks for giving me credit.. but with
> all
> > > due
> > > respect, I never used the word girlfriend..I actually used
> "significant
> > > other" but to be more specific, it's actually my boyfriend.. ;-)
> > >
> > > I read through it.. nice review. I also saw the movie again
> yesterday
> > > so
> > > have some more thoughts...
> > >
> > > <rant>
> > >
> > > I can shed a bit of light on how Neo knew to meet the Oracle.. the
> ship
> > > that
> > > Morpheus asked to stay at broadcast level got a communique (sp?)
> from
> > > the
> > > Oracle, which was delivered to Neo.. that's how Neo knew he had to
> meet
> > > with
> > > her. Although I found it odd that Seraph was NOT there to defend
> the
> > > Oracle
> > > in the first Matrix.
> > >
> > > Something else I was considering was that Neo was a program acting
> out
> > > "The
> > > One" like all the others who just do what they are made to do.. but
> I
> > > don't
> > > think this is the case since the 3 agents who he fights at the
> beginning
> > > say
> > > "The anomaly.. he is still.. only human..." So I think Neo for sure
> is
> > > human.. although I wonder if it's the same human who has been "The
> One"
> > > the
> > > previous 5 times.
> > >
> > > One other outlook I've given after the second viewing.. is that in
> the
> > > original Matrix, Smith says that the Matrix used to be perfect.. but
> > > that it
> > > didn't work.. so they had to make it imperfect. What I *think* the
> > > architect said in Reloaded is that 1% of the people didn't accept
> the
> > > imperfect Matrix (better than the 100% of the perfect Matrix).. and
> that
> > >
> > > "The One" including the prophecy was created by the Oracle (who it
> turns
> > > out
> > > is actually a 'bad guy') to bleed off that unsusceptible 1%, freeing
> > > them
> > > into Zion.. and then sending the sentinals into Zion to whipe it
> out.
> > >
> > > There are a couple flaws with this theory though.. one is the
> obvious..
> > > that
> > > this does not explain Neo's new powers at the end.. The other is
> that
> > > the
> > > french asswhipe ;-) says he survived Neo's predecessors, which
> implies
> > > to me
> > > that if a predecessor had killed him, he wouldn't still be here.. if
> > > that is
> > > the case, has the keymaker been killed 5 times before also?
> > >
> > > On a funner note.. did anyone else notice that in the first Neo vs.
> > > many-smiths battle, near the end of the fight, the smiths getting
> > > knocked

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