Hi everybody,

The story about the City source being last seen in Philip Price's garage in
Hawaii is true. I don't recall Phil offering to allow people to search his
garage but it is probably a joke.
In regards to the Dungeon source I remember Dan Pinal (one of the lead
programmers along with Ken Jordan, remember Phil didn't write the Dungeon,
he provided an outline) said that the source was at DataSoft when they were
closed down. I don't recall the full story he related to the list but
somehow or another the source was either lost in the shuffle or was erased
by new ownership. It would be good to check the backlog of posts to
straighten this one out.

Regardless I can confirm that the whereabouts of ANY AR source code is
unknown. The only one I think there may be some minor hope of finding is
the PC version since I have not heard any specific stories about it's demise.

It's sad really.



At 10:01 PM 8/21/03 -0600, you wrote:
>Someone correct me if I'm wrong.. I believe the official answer is, no, the
>source codes have never been released for either the city or dungeon.
>
>Phil reputedly had the City source on 11 (?) floppies in his garage, but
>that was years ago. I expect that was written a few houses back, so where
>they are now is anyone's guess. At the time, I believe the official scoop
>was also that if you wanted to go search Phil's garage for them, he was okay
>with that.. hehehe.. but I don't know if that offer still stands.. or even
>if it's real, for all I know it could've been dreamed up.
>
>As for the Dungeon, I'm not sure what the official story is behind why they
>aren't available...but I can tell you that I've never personally seen them,
>and I expect I would have bumped into them on one of my many net-crawls for
>all things AR.
>
>Not the answer you were hoping for, I'm sure.... but the answer nonetheless.
>
>-K
>
>
>
>>From: Jon Kelley <dragonland2001--yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: alternatereality-From-barrick75-hotmail.com--alternaterealityarchive.com
>>>>Subject: AR "Resurrection" Project...
>>Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:14:07 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>All -
>> In the coursde of learning programming (I've been a
>>hardware guy this long, C++ and PocketC are two new
>>languages to me right now) I decided it may be fun to
>>try something new and resurrect teh AR series as
>>Win32-native and PalmOS ports. I've already started
>>trying layouts and framework ideas for AR/PalmOS, but
>>would like to know if Mr. Price has ever got round to
>>posting the source for ARCity and ARDungeon - also if
>>he has a current email anywhere (I've found his
>>paradise--netcom.com addy, but it's associated with a
>>1995 date,) so I can try him for source, ideas for the
>>other modules previously planned, and make sure he's
>>OK with the project (which is a labour of love, and
>>would be distribute as freeware unless I am told
>>elsewise.)
>>
>> I'd also like to hear from anyone else who may be
>>trying something similar, or someone who may have
>>ideas I might not have thought of yet.
>>
>> While I shall endeavour to keep pace with the list,
>>I would appreciate any replies being cc:'d to my
>>direct email as well. I have just returned from an
>>extended absence and come home to a moved house and
>>any number of domestic disasters. This is currently
>>the sort of thing that will see its best efforts
>>before sunrise and after sunset, most likely...
>>
>> Jon D Kelley
>> dragonland2001--yahoo.com
>>
>> AR Fanatic since 1986 (Atari 800XL!)
>>
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